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More SARS deaths as expert warns of higher mortality rate
Australian Broadcasting. ^ | April 27, 2003

Posted on 04/26/2003 7:26:57 PM PDT by Lessismore

The worldwide SARS death toll continued to climb on Saturday as a leading British expert warned the mortality rate from the mysterious disease could be double that suggested by the World Health Organisation (WHO).

Canada recorded its 20th death, a 77-year-old man from Ontario province, casting doubt on official comments that the outbreak is under control.

Six deaths in Hong Kong and Singapore's 19th fatality were among 15 fatalities in Asia, bringing the global toll to 292.

As US President George W Bush offered to help beat the epidemic in China, where drastic measures are being taken to halt the rampant severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), a British expert on infectious diseases said the mortality rate had reached 10 per cent - double WHO estimates.

"If one looks carefully at the WHO figures on mortality and recovery rates, it is running, unfortunately, at 10 per cent," Professor Roy Anderson of Imperial College said.

WHO, which said on Friday the mortality rate had reached 5-6 per cent, did not confirm Dr Anderson's figures, but said they appeared plausible.

"We have not seen the report so we could not comment except to say that this is a top-class professional and any figure he commits himself to is likely to be as close as possible to accurate," said Dick Thompson, spokesman for the WHO's communicable disease section.

Asian nations earlier vowed to form a united front to halt the spread of the killer virus as the WHO called for a global hunt to track down every case of the disease.

The determined pledge came at the end of a meeting of Asian health ministers and international experts in Kuala Lumpur.

The respiratory illness that first emerged in the southern Chinese province of Guangdong nearly six months ago has now infected nearly 5,000 people in 26 countries.

Several governments have already introduced sweeping emergency measures to curb the spread of the disease, quarantining thousands of people and sealing off entire buildings, hospitals and schools.

The health ministers meeting in Kuala Lumpur ahead of an emergency regional summit in Bangkok next week turned their attention to the problem of preventing the virus from spreading internationally.

In a communiqué issued after the meeting, the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) plus China, Japan and South Korea affirmed the need to bar SARS suspects from going to other countries.


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KEYWORDS: alliswellremaincalm; fatalityrate; hysteria; panic; rate; royanderson; sars
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1 posted on 04/26/2003 7:26:57 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: Lessismore
Let's see.. If the mortality rate is 25%, and I have two sons and an ex, then what am I hoping for??

LOL!
2 posted on 04/26/2003 7:32:50 PM PDT by a_Turk (Lookout, lookout, the candy man..)
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To: a_Turk
If the mortality rate is 25%, then the probability that none of you will die is .75 x .75 x .75 x .75 = .32 or 32%.

The probability that one or more of you will die is 68%.
3 posted on 04/26/2003 7:43:07 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: Lessismore
Can't remember where I read it or how true it is but it said for some reason Americans overall appear to be somewhat resistant to this bug, that possibly it's already been here in some form and people in this country have built up an immunity to its effects.

Hope that story's true. I also hope they come up with a treatment pretty quick, it has the potential to kill millions the way it's mutating.

4 posted on 04/26/2003 8:15:01 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: jeepit
This is The Stand coming to life!

And if this virus is man-made, guess who'll be getting the blame?

You can expect to see a thousand books from the conspiracy nut cases very soon for that answer.

6 posted on 04/26/2003 8:31:33 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
"... that possibly it's already been here in some form and people in this country have built up an immunity to its effects."

Yes it has. The government has been spreading a weak form of it across the country via condensation trails from aircraft. Now that we have been protected the full virus has been used as a weapon against china.

Hey, it's as good a theory as anything else...

7 posted on 04/27/2003 12:15:28 AM PDT by TheLooseThread
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To: TheLooseThread
OHHHH my goddddd!!! Is this true?!!?
8 posted on 04/27/2003 1:06:44 AM PDT by NP-INCOMPLETE
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Osama Bin Laden said in an Arabic TV interview, 2001, "after I had destroyed the USA, I will destroy China, the World's second greatest power...."

So, don't write of Al-Queda usng bio-weapons, totally off yet....

Al-Queda may be doing a dry run on China, with US as the next target......

Oh, dear, I must stop all these stupid medication....
9 posted on 04/27/2003 2:03:46 AM PDT by The Pheonix
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To: Lessismore
My analysis says the SARS death rate is much higher than widely reported.

I believe the various areas differ for two main reasons:

SARS Mortality Rates
Based on World Health Organization data                 (Revised: 4/27am)
Area Recoveries to date Deaths to date Recent** Death Rate Active Cases still in Danger Projected Future Deaths Projected Final Mortality
Hong Kong 632 121 12.9% 774 100 14.5%
Singapore 126 21 16.1% 51 8 14.8%
China 1285 122 28.2% 1346 380 18.2%
Canada 77 18 20.7% 47 10 19.5%
World-wide 2239 293 18.5% 2304 426 14.9%
**  ( Deaths in the last 7 days) / ( Deaths + Recoveries in the last 7 days)
Trend - Active Cases Still in Danger
Date Hong Kong Singapore China Canada World-wide
Apr 19 914 61 307 66 1616
Apr 20 893 64 497 66 1694
Apr 21 (est.) 872 66 686 66 1771
Apr 22 874 60 708 61 1783
Apr 23 831 58 968 58 2005
Apr 24 812 55 1058 58 2059
Apr 25 781 50 1209 51 2169
Apr 26 774 51 1346 47 2304
(includes new daily cases... excludes cases resolved by death or recovery)

My observations:


10 posted on 04/27/2003 2:19:16 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer
yes, understandably so, HongKong and Singapore are tiny islands, with piddling 3-6 million people, but China is a continental landmass with 1.3 billion people

are we talking apples and oranges, here
11 posted on 04/27/2003 2:23:39 AM PDT by The Pheonix
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To: FL_engineer
I've become a bit suspicious of Hong Kong's figures. Until April 15, they each day listed new admissions to the hospitals. Since that day they have listed "patients confirmed to have atypical pneumonia following admission to public hospitals earlier". Then two days ago they began to list "suspected cases" who were already hospitalized, but not carried in the confirmed list. They do not say when they began admitting these "suspects". Nor do they state whether their number of "suspects" given each day is a total or the number of new admissions. I'm now carrying the suspects in my chart, in a separate column, and assuming that they are new admissions for each day.
12 posted on 04/27/2003 2:53:34 AM PDT by per loin
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To: FL_engineer
Excellent analysis. Using the last 7 days data may result in a mortality estimate that is a little high, since the "recoveries" may generally have an earlier date of onset than the "deaths". If the number of new cases per day is increasing, the earlier cohorts to which the recoveries belong would be smaller than the later cohorts to which the deaths belong. But for Singapore and Hong Kong, the new cases have been flat or declining for the last 2-3 weeks, so those estimates may be pretty accurate.
13 posted on 04/27/2003 5:39:01 AM PDT by Lessismore
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To: per loin; aristeides; blam; CathyRyan; Betty Jo; Domestic Church; Prince Charles
Good morning. Fox's doctor was on this morning, Dr. Rosenfeld--is that his name?--and he was saying the same things that we've concluded:

No accurate test

No effective treatment

Unknown if patients can get it more than once

Serious matter of concern





14 posted on 04/27/2003 8:33:29 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: The Pheonix
So, don't write of Al-Queda usng bio-weapons, totally off yet....

If the virus is man-made, Al-Queda would be my first suspect, with possibly even the Chinese government manufacturing it as a weapon, accidently or purposely?? getting out into the general public.

But I give it a month or two before we start hearing in the media about conspiracies the CIA is involved. They always get the blame for all the world's problems.

15 posted on 04/27/2003 8:50:24 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Lessismore
Man, this story just keepsagettin worser and worser.
16 posted on 04/27/2003 8:51:34 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Yes, many other people suspect the Al-Queda as a possible culprit as well

There are several newspapers articles that said that the World's Islamic terrorist groups are looking and studying the SARS situation with great interest.

International TERRORISM is starting to get the wrong ideas....unfortunately for the rest of Mnkind
17 posted on 04/27/2003 8:57:38 AM PDT by The Pheonix
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To: TheLooseThread
The government has been spreading a weak form of it across the country via condensation trails from aircraft.

In about a month that's exactly what first left-wing magazines, then CNN and NPR will be passing off as the truth. I'd bet the farm on it.

18 posted on 04/27/2003 8:58:49 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Lessismore
The probability that one or more of you will die is 68%.

That would only be if you actually got the disease... LOL! Otherwise, if it were 68% for all of us the environmentalists would be thrilled as it would help get the world population down to 1 billion where they think it should be!!!

19 posted on 04/27/2003 8:58:53 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow
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To: Kay Ludlow
That would only be if you actually got the disease... LOL!

I was assuming a household of 4, living together, who all came down with the disease and each had a probability of 25% of dying from it.

In reality, there is a pretty good chance that if one person in a family living together gets SARS, the other ones will get it as well. It is like flu or measles or chicken pox in that regard. However, it is true that not all would come down.

Age has a big impact as well. If it is a pair of parents in their 30s with two small children, the children are very likely to survive and the parents have only a 1 or 2 percent chance of dying, assuming they aren't immunosupressed or have other medical conditions.

If it is adult children (50s) living with aged parents (70s or 80s), the odds are pretty good that both aged parents die and that at least one of the children dies as well.

Loosed in a senior citizen's home, SARS would empty the place.

20 posted on 04/27/2003 9:40:24 AM PDT by Lessismore
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